(S6Ep19) Flu Season 2!

(Most of) the parks crew heads to the winery, and Ben and Leslie get a WILD surprise!!!!!! and Chip McCapp (Bo Burnham) is finally here, omg we've been waiting!!!!! 

Thank you so much to Steve Tom and Rebecca Klingler for sending in amazing voice memos about your time on set, WE LOVED THEM!!!!!! So forever grateful! Check out their information below to follow! 

Rebecca Klingler:

Teaching: https://www.uclaextension.edu/instructors/rebecca-klingler

https://www.instagram.com/klingler.rebecca/?hl=en

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0459779/

Steve Tom: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0003493/

Jeff Tweedy article: https://www.vulture.com/article/wilco-jeff-tweedy-parks-and-recreation-interview.html#:~:text=Land%20Ho!%2C%20indeed%2C%20reunites,%E2%80%9D%20as%20a%20non%2Dactor

Jim Meskimen Interview: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/our-conversation-with-jim-meskimen-aka-martin-housely/id1551856074?i=1000528207972

Transcript

Holly Constant (00:01.066)
Okay, hi everyone. Thanks so much for joining us. We are on Flu Season 2. Another name we've used before, so exciting. We had Gallentine's Day and now circling back to Flu Season 2. So I did want to go ahead and let you know that we're following up with Steve Tom who plays the Principal Russell character in

Prom, which was our last episode. And Steve didn't get a chance to send in his voice memos last week. So let's go ahead and listen to them now. I'm so excited. Thank you so much for doing this. I know it was kind of new for you to send in voice memos. So I really appreciate the back and forth. He was so sweet to try to get these in for us. And it's just going to make our podcast so much better. I can feel it already. OK, here we go. Here's the first one.

Holly Constant (03:09.966)
Yay! Thank you so much. my gosh. Yeah. COVID ruined so many things. So I am very glad that you got to do, you know, at least a little bit.

Anyways, yeah, so I love that you've auditioned for them before. I think that's really pertinent information because so many people are remembered through the casting office. So yeah, awesome, love that. Okay, next one.

Holly Constant (05:18.95)
Yay! my gosh. Yeah, so we talked about this in the episode of the review of Prom that their theme was actually into the woods, technically, because it was the theater department's last play, so they could just reuse the decoration, if you will. But no, this is exactly what we talked about as well, which is why I'm harping on it, I guess, because we said the same thing, that...

everybody's prom theme was pretty much this like magical fairy tale, yeah, under the sea kind of vibe into the woods, you know, very magic. And that's, you know, with the florals and the beautiful landscape and the set decoration of, you know, balloons in the midst of these like beautiful magical trees and...

So yes, love that very much. I mean, yeah, you're right. The second creation really was great. It was fantastic Yeah, we talked about in your episode that we also Found out that it was shot at a middle school So yeah, we really love that and then yeah two days shooting. That's a really interesting little tidbit I do remember Reese Kirk who played Donna's quote bitch boy his words also did two days of shooting but his was because

They needed to do the slow dance with Retta, which I don't remember actually seeing. So I wonder if they cut that. But anyhow, yeah, that makes sense though for Principal Russell's character because they do have that scene where, you know, that we're in his office. He's saying that he's really disappointed in Leslie and that could have been the scene or the day that the middle school was not available. So definitely makes sense. I love that little behind the scenes tidbit. Love that. Thank you.

Holly Constant (09:03.858)
Yay, yes, I love hearing that Ken, the director who we love, he's the one that I always mention whenever he comes up that he's done literally every TV show or directed every TV show that we're obsessed with, you know what I mean? He's done so much. But yeah, not every director, even though Parks and Rec is very free flowing and improv heavy, know, not every director asks.

the guest stars or asks people to do fun runs slash improv. So that's really cool to know that Ken did. Awesome, love that. Yay. And yes, my gosh, Leslie being sad that she disappointed the principal is always hilarious. Okay, this is our final voice memo.

Holly Constant (10:40.652)
Yay, thank you so much Steve for those. That's awesome. I love it so much. I will post his IMDB and everything in the show notes so you guys can follow him if he has any upcoming things that he is working on. But yes, we love hearing those behind the scenes from the principal himself, you guys. You heard it here first. He is amazing. And yeah, who wouldn't want to have a great time as a co-star, especially if you're not sure what you're going to get. I mean, you just don't know when you go on set how good of a day it's going to be, how fun it's going to be.

So to have that experience of it being really fun and energetic and all of the people really nice and the directors asking you to play around like, what a dream. What a dream. Well, thank you so much, Steve again. I really appreciate it. my gosh. All right. Well, let us get into that was the only recap I had from our last episode. So let's go ahead and get into season six, episode 19 flu season two. Like I said, another name that we've used before we had Galentine's day before and now we're circling back to flu season two.

because we had a flu season regular. This was directed by our own Nick Offerman. my gosh, how exciting. He did direct before he, so this is his second time directing for Parks, so that's very exciting. This was written by Megan Amram and Dave King, who we've seen many a time in our tenure at Parks and Rec. Just a reminder, Megan is a writer of so many things, and she's also the girlfriend in the couple that wants to buy Ron's cabin. And April is like,

talking about the Deathcap guy Ben Gibbard to them and they're freaking out. So that's Megan but she's written so much on Parks and so many other things in the sure verse especially and same with our the next writer Dave King he is the rabbi that marries Craig in typhoons. Spoiler alert or actually I'm not sure if he's the rabbi actually but he

Regardless, he's in one of the futuristic episodes. And we have seen him as an actor, like make a little cameo in the deleted scenes, which I believe I played during the April adoption of the pet adoption scene. He's one of the ones that kind of like is a weirdo that comes to look at the cats and dogs. But anyhow, he is, you know, a writer, producer on Parks, and they've contributed so greatly to the show. So I'm really glad that we're getting this team back.

Holly Constant (12:56.512)
All right, so Maddie Summary is here. As you can tell, she is not with me today, but here we go.

Holly Constant (13:06.602)
And as you can tell, Maddie is not with me today. So off the cuff, you guys know what this one is about. I will say since it's called Flu Season 2, and if you're new here, Maddie usually gives a summary. So that's why I'm explaining a little bit more, but saying I'm doing it off the cuff. But basically, know, Flu Season 2, I kind of was expecting it to be more about Flu Season, but I feel like this episode is the one I primarily think of as the winery episode. So a part of me feels like...

I would have called it the winery episode in my head. So, but Leslie does get the flu. What we think might be the flu, but it's actually a surprise. However, Larry Jerry and potentially Andy, he doesn't show it here, but he is sneezing a lot. So he might be sick too. So anyhow, that is flu season two. Let's get started. All right. We start this episode with the Unity concert auditions. This was absolutely cut from the original airing. We've got...

Martin back, which is our would I guy he is played by Jim Meskiman and we actually interviewed him a while back I'll put his interview in the show notes so you guys can check him out. He his whole thing is impressions He has a YouTube channel He has a big following there and he brittle. I mean they readily utilized his gifts here I feel like they might have had that in the audition I think we talked about that where he you know, cuz that was primarily what he was doing He when he was doing all the speeches as the emcee for a lot of events

Like I said, I call him Wood Eye Guy because it was at Ron's event that he wins for chair, best chair. And he's like, Wood Eye and holds up a wooden letter I, which I know I didn't need to explain that, but I did. So anyhow, anyways, love that we're seeing this actually, because like I said, this was cut, the Peacock, if you're watching it on Peacock, it's on there now. But before that, it was not. This was in the director's cut on the DVDs.

I love that Andy doesn't know who any of the people are that he's doing the impressions of. Like those people aren't real probably to him. And I love that they're having a local talent stage. I think this is such a great idea. And I also think that it would have been so cool to know that they're doing that because I think because this was cut, we didn't know that. You know, the audience didn't know that they were doing a local talent stage. And I think that is really cool. What a fantastic idea for a small town. Like someone who is maybe

Holly Constant (15:28.556)
you know, not even out there like talented or we don't know that they have talents or whatever and then they can show their talents or maybe there's a local superstar like our Star Spangled Banner singer. You know, she could be the local talent stage, Pawnee's most bookable talent. Love that so much.

So yeah, just shouts to all the people that were in this talent portion. mean, all of these people that we've got jugglers, a contortionist is in Pawnee. Maybe they were from Eagleton originally, who knows? I definitely related to Leslie's moment about checking things off her task list. my gosh, I literally just spoke to my therapist about this in my last session. Like I get such a high from checking things off my list and that's kind of like all I focus on. I don't think about the actual, like being present while I'm doing it.

So, I mean, that's neither here nor there, but I think that's really interesting. And sometimes you really, I feel like Leslie and I are similar in the sense where we want a reward for checking something off of our to-do list. But at the same time, we also get such an adrenaline rush from just checking it off and, you know, at the end of the day. I live for the check marks too. I personally love crossing it off. She does a check mark, but I like crossing the whole thing off. You know, it's very satisfying. Perd writes a slam poem. dear.

This is a funny joke though, kind of, that Purr just speaks like this regularly in his cadence, I think. So that's really funny. They also have a slam poet joke, slam poem joke, like a while back. I thought that was really funny. Leslie's like, everything can be slam poetry if you say it in a way, blah, blah, blah. It's nonsense. That's what she says. So I think it's funny that they're bringing that joke back. Somebody in the writer's room isn't a huge fan of slam poetry, probably.

could be a fan though. There are things that come up on TikTok that are slam poets and I think it's really interesting. So it depends on the content, I guess. Okay, so now Andy is on the phone. I'm really proud of him for being a professional, by the way. I don't feel like we've seen this a ton of him like, I mean, apart from the Unity concert, I suppose. And maybe the possum could be considered professional. But I when he catches the possum, I do feel like it's really interesting to see.

Holly Constant (17:44.522)
Andy in this setting here, know, he is making notes, he's speaking very succinctly and efficiently and saying, you know, I think we can make that happen. So I really like that the Unity concert is bringing that out in him. And side note, this is where the show typically would have started in the original air, Andy being on the phone. And...

He starts, he starts sneezing like crazy. And this is hilarious. The way he sneezes just one right after the other. And it's like huge movements as he's sneezing. Uh, Leslie is like, I cannot get sick. I have too much work to do because again, we are in flu season. Um, and saying that you have too much work to do and you cannot get sick is basically the universe. Like telling the universe to make you sick because it's so, it's just twisted that way. I feel like you only get sick when you have 9,000 things to do or, and you know,

The universe is telling you, have to slow down. But my God, ew, the montage of the sickness spreading because of the water fountain drinking habits and sneezing on the donut, but then still eating it, which is freaking hilarious, by the way. It was so well done. Those actors were hilarious. Just so nonchalant about the whole thing. They didn't care. It's totally normal part of their life. Pawnee, what the heck? They used to crown a Miss Influenza every year. I don't remember that part. Maybe?

Maybe this part was in the original air and I just forgot about it, but that is crazy. my gosh. Wild. my God, that that was like accepted and you want it to be misinfluencer probably. People were probably gunning for it. To that note, Larry is in his little quarantine tent thing, which is hilarious because...

They did not let him go home, which is so wild to me. They're just keeping him in this little tent thing, which maybe they rented from Rented Tent Tents. I bet they have quarantine tents. And I just think it's so funny to me that he just is stuck in this little box. But my gosh, I have been waiting for Chip McCapp. Chip McCapp, the country singer who is so popular in Indiana.

Holly Constant (19:56.993)
He's gonna be the headliner. He's a 17 year old country singer. They are huge chipmunks and that's what they call the fans. My gosh, we've been waiting. This is such a good part of Parks and Rec lore. I love this. And I love that Bo Burnham plays Chip McCapp and my gosh, dear God, he is so talented, so funny. He has a whole section in his stand up, one of his stand up specials where he absolutely makes fun of country singers pandering.

to the country music audience, which I definitely think is true. Not all country music, don't get it twisted. I do love country music, Americana, all of that. But it's so good with the, especially radio, country, sometimes it's just very beers and trucks, the end. You know what I mean? And then the troops. something on IMDB did say that after 9-11, a lot of country singers...

did this kind of tactic, if you will, where they would start singing about, you know, another topic and then immediately in the same song, in the same sentence that doesn't even have anything to do with it, go into God save the troops, essentially. So, I mean, I don't know if that's actually true, but I can absolutely see, I could see how it is if it is. I'm just here to present the information, okay? And you guys can make your research too.

Although I do research a lot of it. Okay, I'm sorry. With Maddie not here, I don't have anyone to rein me in. All right, moving on. Let's see. I did want to mention his special outside, which came out during COVID is so good. You guys have to watch it. It is very deep and in a lot of ways, existential and profound. So there are moments where you might feel intensely. You just might feel intensely. So...

Please watch it. It's so good. I love it so much. Moving on. I love this Leslie-Andy dynamic, by the way, so much. It's so cute and I love seeing them work together because I don't think we've really seen them be in the same room this long or, you know, I know Andy has been kind Leslie's assistant for a long time. You know, especially this one. I mean, that was when she was basically city counselor.

Holly Constant (22:12.541)
and needed help running her life, but I don't think we've seen it to this extent. So that's really nice to see. my gosh, the song from Chip McCapp is beautiful. Like my mom, parentheses support the troops. It's so good after they say, play it again. like that's where the intro I believe usually comes in. Whereas in the Peacock version, it was after, the, the talent show, auditions. Okay.

Let's see. my God. I just had written, she don't care about no trans. She don't care about no fancy trans. She's just a mom from all South band. Get home safe boys. I just love the commentary on the two topics that have nothing to do with each other. my gosh. Let's see.

Holly Constant (23:11.885)
There is a deleted scene here that I must play after... It was in the gag reel, I don't know if they were ever gonna air it or if it was actually a gag, meaning that it was a blooper, but I must play this for you. One moment.

Holly Constant (24:05.549)
I just love the deleted scene of, my, my, my, my, my, my, my God. It's so good. It's so, so good. And then Jesus on the dash. my gosh. It's just, I love that. So had to play that for you. So now in Ben's office, Tom is telling Donna and April that they're going to a winery. apparently.

Tom is scouting for new sommeliers at a local vineyard for his new restaurant, Tom's Bistro, and he wants to get the best person. Craig says he wants to come and he studied botany. So I guess that has to do with wineries because of the vineyard and growing grapes and all that kind of stuff. And then Ron and Ben say they'll tag along as well. And now we got the whole gang going and Ben is like, I got a bunch of grandpas. Or Tom says that, sorry. So Andy's wish list for the Unity concert was.

Bob Dylan's friends, The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, and Land Ho, which we'll talk about a little bit later. I love that it's just Bob Dylan's friends, not Bob Dylan. But we get a call that Chip McCapp has to drop out, which is very sad and very urgent, if you will. And his manager called and said that he can't come. And now Leslie is sick and is throwing up. And my gosh, she has the flu. I love Larry's cringe face, like, no.

She's got it. Well, what we think she has anyway. So now we meet Xander, who is a sommelier contestant. Xander Truffant. my gosh, here we go with the names. It almost sounds like a truffle, which is supposed to be fancy. So Xander Truffant. my gosh. Very kind of like French too, or fancy European names. So now we get to the winery, and this is filmed at Agua Dolce Winery, located in Santa Clarita, California.

This 90 acre property is a popular filming destination for Hollywood productions appearing in various shows and offers tours, tastings and events. It's about 45 minutes away from LA slash, you know, the studio that they usually film, which is CBS Radford in Studio City. So we've got the location is 9600 Sierra Highway in Agua Dolce, California, which is in the Santa Clarita area. I hope I'm saying that right. Agua. I'm going to say Agua Dolce. Yeah.

Holly Constant (26:23.373)
That makes sense. Wouldn't that be like sweet water? Something like that? Dolce? Does Dolce mean sweet? Shoot, I'm so sorry. Let's look that up and see if I'm wrong. Dolce means sweet! my God, see? And then agua means water, so sweet water. my gosh, I'm so smart. Okay. Anyway, moving on. Let's see. It was also used for...

Holly Constant (26:48.925)
Yeah, let's see. So it's also been used for Westworld, NCIS LA, and Bones. So it's definitely a prominent filming area for LA productions. So Xander says that as he gets ready for the competition, he pours saline down his nasal passageways to clear the mucus from his smell centers. Yikes. Gross. But also very intense and committed, passionate.

So Xander is played by Shell Raston, which I think is really funny. His first name is Shell S-H-E-L. Not funny that that's his name, but that could absolutely be a park's name, if we're honest. Shell Raston. I mean, this guy was totally fitting the part for this. He's been in CSI Miami, a bunch of short films, a TV series called Big Top last year. I follow him on Instagram, and he plays guitar a lot. He's very hippie vibes, which I don't mean in an offensive way. I don't think that's...

you know, a bad thing. thought it was really interesting and cool. So yeah, follow him. Totally. Shell Raston. Well done also on the acting for this. I mean, this was exactly what the role called for. Just really pretentious, but you don't think that you're pretentious, but you're really good at what you do. And have Tom Ridley just be seeking out the cool guy. Like so cool, so suave. I think it was really well done.

So Donna spots April $200 to be certified slash get drunk with these people. Go Donna, having just 200 cash in your wallet. This lady who takes April's name is so funny. She's like the Wine Academy in Bordeaux. Oh my gosh. So this actor is named Rebecca Klinger and her character name is Janisha Wellmark.

which I love that, that must have cleared at some point, I don't know. But I just love the idea that April's just randomly coming up with this name of the Wine Academy, sure, question mark, and her character, Rebecca's character is just like, of course, yes, duh, my gosh, let me change my whole attitude about you, because you went to this academy. Side note, I read that she graduated from the University of Evansville in Indiana.

Holly Constant (28:55.101)
which is exciting. So you're in the Indiana world of parks. She sent in some super great voice memos. So we're to take a listen to those in a moment. But I also wanted to mention that she has done a lot of things, podcasts, short films, movies, a lot of theater, which looks super great. I also see that she has a picture with her and Betty White on the show Hot in Cleveland, which is very exciting and super cute. So let's take a listen to her voice memos. my gosh. Thank you so much for sending those in.

Holly Constant (29:54.701)
My gosh, that's really nice. Yes. I signed my emails doing my best. That's what she's meaning. Also, I think I Rebecca clinger. I'm sorry. It's Rebecca clingler. I'm so sorry my gosh, I'm not even editing that out because we all make mistakes and I really was doing my best So Rebecca clingler, so sorry And I'm gonna use these I know I will so okay. Let's go to how you got the role on parks

Holly Constant (32:02.987)
Yay, I love that. my gosh, isn't that so funny? You're like, wait, why am I getting cast as all the mean people or whatever? And you're like, maybe it's just a repressed moment. But that's honestly why it's so fun to play these people sometimes, because you're like, I would love to just say what I feel and be the weirdo. Or sometimes you really have just seen those people and you have such experience with them because they've treated you that way. So now you can just emulate them, if you will. But either way, I can tell that you're not as snooty. And so I love to hear that that's.

was funny to you as well.

Holly Constant (36:55.709)
Okay, so many things in there that I want to respond to. Number one, yeah, it is far away from LA. I think I said 45 minutes when I was explaining the location earlier in the episode, but that is like...

if there's literally no traffic in your speeding. You know what mean? So I'm sure everywhere is like an hour and a half. Yeah, it's not awful to not have seen the show, especially at this time. Like nowadays, if you haven't seen a show with all of our streaming and all the resources that we have, OK, like maybe we need to work a little harder. But with this case, I just don't feel like that was really available to us all the time because streaming was just not what it is. And Parks and Rec wasn't even streaming, you know, until after, I think, it.

aired fully so it's hard sometimes if you don't have cable if you don't pay for cable or have TiVo or whatever the fuck that was so yeah I totally get that and yeah like you said totally like not being intimidated and maybe just going in for what you know your role is is not always a bad thing sometimes if you have too much information it's like you think too hard about it in a way so I totally understand that

That's a bummer to hear about Retta. I haven't heard that about her. I do want to, obviously we know that this is, everybody has their own experience on the show. And this was Rebecca's experience. So this is not to say that, and like you said, there was no ill will or hard feelings or whatever. I do wonder, and I've heard this from people before, I do wonder if the fact that they're on location was weird.

And not weird, it's not an excuse by any means, but sometimes location throws the production off, so I don't know if there was something going on with that, or I don't wanna make excuses for her, obviously. So if that was your experience, that was your experience, and I'm really glad that you shared and were open about that, because like you said, everyone has their days, so it really could have been that. I see what you mean about maybe Donna's brand.

Holly Constant (38:51.853)
but I haven't heard that about Reda, so I don't know. but yeah, I'm glad that you shared it. And the fact that there was facial expressions from Aubrey and, and Billy Eichner that could just, you could have so much to play with, was really nice. And it's not, I mean, I guess you didn't have your scenes with Reda, so that's nice. But, yeah, we will, we will discuss, or, and by we, I mean me and Maddie. but yeah, everyone has their experiences and this is, you know, just your.

what happened in your history. I'm glad to have heard that. I'm not gonna cut it. Okay. I know that's what everyone's thinking. Why did she hear that? Because it was your truth at that time. Okay, let's move on.

Holly Constant (41:00.765)
Yay, I love hearing that. We've only heard good things about Nick Offerman. I'm sure he has his days as well. But the fact that he was directing, was able to come over to you and have a little moment with you really makes a difference, I think, because he was the leader that day of the episode. So I'm glad to hear that. But I'm so glad that Nick Offerman was great and that you got so many great reactions from Aubrey and Billy. And yeah, it's, don't think, like you said, I don't think it's like a stain or anything on your experience. Or I hope it's not a stain on your experience or anything like that, but good to remember. Okay, love Nick Offerman so much. my gosh, I can't wait to meet him one day. One day, maybe I'll never meet him, but.

That would be fun. Okay, let us move on to the things that Rebecca is working on now.

Holly Constant (46:44.365)
my God, you are so nice, Rebecca. I love this so much. You're so perfect. my God. You're doing so much. Wow. All of that. I'm so glad. I know it's hard for actors to talk about themselves. And my gosh. Yeah. I just needed to look up the name because even I did it, which was awful. And I'm so sorry, Rebecca. Please, please forgive me. But yeah. Okay. It says Rebecca Klingler on IMDB, but on the Parks and Rec it says as Rebecca Klinger. What the F?

think that either when they say as and then they put their name. You know what I mean? Their real name. So whatever. But your name is Rebecca Klingler.

and I apologize for getting that incorrect. Thank you so much for the kind words. my gosh, congratulations on the award. That is so exciting. Is there going to be a ceremony? I'll ask all of this in an email maybe. And secondly, yeah, that Titanic. my God, that is so cool. I cannot believe that. I mean, I can, because it's great. But yeah, I've been to the Queen Mary.

Back when I lived in LA, I lived in LA for like four years, a long, time ago. And I think it was like one of my last weeks or something in LA. And I went to the Queen Mary with my mom. And my gosh, so fun. Loved it. It's a really cool ship and definitely worth visiting. So if you've never been there or if you have been there and you like it, audience, you should definitely go, especially if it's April 11th to the 14th.

to see the Titaniacs. I love that. I've never heard that name. my gosh, I learn something new every day. So perfect. my God, I love that. And then you have the Netflix show. my gosh, that's very exciting. Yes, once it comes out, please let me know what it is and I'll post it in our show notes as well or I'll post about it too. The fact that it's with Will Ferrell, I can tell it's gonna be great already. But yes, I absolutely understand signing the NDA and all that kind of stuff.

Holly Constant (48:35.071)
And yeah, I'll have to find the link to Rebecca's teaching and everything as well so that we can post about that too if anyone's looking for acting classes, yoga, all that kind of stuff. It sounds really cool. So I'll definitely post about that. I absolutely understand. mean, that's one of the things I feel like we do as actors is to have something going on so that you are still pursuing your art and passion and creativity, if you will.

I mean, why do think I'm doing this podcast? Cause I love it so much A and B it really fills my creative juice. mean, when I'm not doing acting or theater or, you know, music or whatever. So, I absolutely relate to that. And I think that it's really great to kind of pivot, but also still do what you're doing. And yeah, I mean, that's no, that's no small feat booking the Netflix show with Will Ferrell. Hello. I know you think it's small, but it's not to me. So I'm just saying, my God. So exciting. Thank you so much for.

Sharing all of those details with me, I love to hear it all. I love to hear it all, all of it, not just the good stuff. Okay, because it's all good really, as far as like informative. Every story is a story, you know what I'm saying? Okay, I think we have one more from you. Let me play this one.

Holly Constant (50:35.275)
Wow.

Holly Constant (51:37.035)
Wow.

My God, that is beautiful. my gosh, so surreal. Thank you so much for sharing. Honestly, that is, again, why I do this too, because it's the little things that I would never know and that fascinate me. This is something that I want to hear about. Like in the prompts for the audience, you guys, when I ask the guest stars, I'm like, is there anything else that you would like to share with us? And then in parentheses, I'm like, yes, I want to hear it. Because I think a lot of people who see that question, they're like, no, there's nothing interesting. I'm cool.

you can just move on. I think it is interesting and I think it is profound and especially this this bit of a note that I would never have thought to ask about. I'm so glad you shared and I'm so glad that people are can maybe relate to this feeling. I know that feeling you know when you look at this something whether it's like a song

or a book or a picture or whatever and you think of the time in your life that you were going through and it might not be a good time. And so that's all you associate it with. And I absolutely, mean, even if it wasn't, you know, grief, it could also just be that you didn't like the way you looked in general. And I get that all of the times when I'm submitting my auditions even, I'm just like, fuck, my double chin is showing. You know what I mean? Like, you know, you just really pick.

up on that and I know it doesn't necessarily help all the time I but I will say the I did not notice any bloatedness I did not notice any

Holly Constant (53:03.607)
that you were noticing because I wasn't going through that experience obviously, but I just wanted to compliment you and say that I thought you looked great and did great and that's why I reached out. But yeah, my gosh, what a beautiful overcoming, guess. Grief is always with you, so you're always looking at what you didn't have when you watched that scene. But I think that it's really special that you shared that because...

that means so much and yeah I could see I could even see not wanting to put it on your reel because you were thinking about maybe the experience that you had with the cast or whatever so like I absolutely understand that and I think that's acceptable I think that's normal you know what I mean so I'm glad that you use it now and I'm glad that you can look at it now with a little bit of light like I said grief is just always with you

So it's not as if it's over that you will just forget about that when you look at that scene. But I think that's really special and I'm so glad that you shared. I'm keeping it. Rebecca, I'm keeping it.

So thank you so much. Keep it all. Thank you so much for sharing your experience. I loved all of those. Yeah, man, these guest stars have been hitting me hard, I feel. The last couple of episodes we've had in the prom episode and everything. You guys are so great. So, so great. And it just adds so much to our podcast that I would never have gotten if it was just me up here on the mic. So thank you so much. Thank you, thank you, thank you. OK.

So Craig joins the competition now as a sommelier or as a sommelier in training, if you will. Ben has this weird family business and Ron literally does not want to hear it, but Ben keeps venting. This is when we're walking through the vineyard. Side note, there are signs on the wooden posts with the names of various crew members, which I love when they do that. I love when they have actual meta people, like a meta moment where they have people on the actual show that are real. So that's fun.

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Apparently, they've sold the Lake House, the family Lake House, without confronting or talking about it with Ben, which really bumps him out. And you can tell there's something deeper going on than just this Lake House. Not that there needs to be anything deeper going on, but you can tell that something's going on. So I'm glad that we get to that a little bit later. So blueberry wine is now served. And at first, Ron doesn't like it because he sees that it's blueberry and it's like a crazy blue color. But he sees the alcohol content and it's like, OK.

We're good, four bottles please. Side note, the server of the blueberry wine, so cute, has actually been on Parks before serving Ron as a bartender in season four, Win, Lose, or Draw, which was the finale episode where Leslie wins the city council seat. And they have a bar at the hotel where they have the watch party, and she's serving Ron his drink, his scotch, or whatever, his whiskey, whatever it is. And I just thought that was awesome that they brought her back.

Her name is Aubyn Philabom. I think I pronounced that right. I'm sure I pronounced it incorrectly the first time too, and I'm so sorry. But she sent in voice memos the last time she was on, which is so fun. I did email her to ask if she had any specific memories of the blueberry wine episode, this one. But I haven't heard back from her yet. But I did go through my old emails. And one of her emails says, my second time on the PNR set, Parks and Rec set.

I played a bartender again or server. serve wine to Nick and Adam and they gave me the same name Dana so that I would be considered recurring. It was the casting director doing me a solid by having them change the name to Dana. That is so cool. What a lovely moment because yeah, you having a recurring role is better than just a one, than a day player role. So that's really cool. I like that a lot.

So now Leslie is like, okay, all we have to do is go to Indianapolis to convince Chip McCapp to get his shit together and come to play for us. But she's trying to work through her sickness, which is no good. Andy says he pukes in the car all the time, so don't even worry about it. Because Leslie puked. So now we're at the pharmacy and Leslie says you can get two candies to Andy, which is so funny. Again, with the Benjamin Button like aging backwards of Andy childish behavior, but we love it.

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So Leslie goes to the pharmacy counter and is like, listen, look, I have the flu and I need the stuff. The Mariah needs to sing tonight stuff, which I love that line. And the pharmacist is like, well, it doesn't seem like it. And then we see a pregnancy test. And.

my gosh, a crazy moment. They did cut this part of the girls, this pharmacist moment, but it's in the original air, usually when it's in a deleted scene, I'll play it for you guys, but it's in the air now on Peacock, so you can see it on Peacock, it's public now, if you will, when she says that it could be aseptic meningitis, and that would mean she only has an hour to live, and she's like, so sorry, it's my first day, I don't know. Side note, I did look that up, aseptic meningitis.

It's an inflammation of the meninges. my gosh, did I pronounce that right? Doctors tell me that they are the brain spinal cord lining and it's typically caused by viruses, especially enteroviruses up to 90 % of cases rather than bacteria. Symptoms include fever, severe headache and stiff neck. It is usually a self-limiting milder condition with recovery expected within seven to 10 days. So it is serious. It sounds like with the symptoms of a fever and severe headache, is flu-like.

cold like kind of vibes, but it's not fatal. At least that's what the internet says, so please somebody correct me if I'm wrong. But it is her first day, so we'll give her little bit of a pass. But the pregnancy test, womb there it is, is back. my gosh, remember, womb there it is was the pregnancy test that Mona Lisa Saperstein took when we thought that she was pregnant with Tom's baby. This pharmacist is played by the actor Teresa Riley, and her character name is Kitty Goodbye.

Kitty first name, goodbye last name. my gosh, amazing. She was so funny, I love it. She looks like she does a lot of voiceover, a lot of fun video games, one of which is called Rango. She also wrote Junior League of Superheroes. She's been in House of Lies. Good Game, I think, is one as well that I had written down.

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And I actually did talk to Teresa. We've been exchanging emails. So she'll be definitely sending in voice memos, but she couldn't get them in in time. So I'm going to add them into the next episode. But thank you, Teresa, for your exchanging of emails. And hopefully, we'll hear from you. Then we see this huge gummy bear candy that counts as one. That's hilarious. So now Ben and Ron are walking in the vineyard. Ben is very drunk and needs to rant. I love that their mouths are blue because of the wine. And I do wonder.

how that worked. Like, did they have some sort of blue drink? Obviously they had a blue drink, but was that dying their mouths or did makeup come over and like, I don't know, put some food dye in their mouth? Let's see. They're talking, well, Ben is talking about how he's mad at his parents and Ron is just like very over it. So back at the competition, we see all the differences. Also like differences in all of the competitors, if you will.

You know, we cut to Xander, then we cut to April, then we cut to Craig. Xander, this was the portion where I was like, my gosh, shut up. You're not all that. When he's explaining like, this is a vintage blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,

So now we're at Chip McCapp's studio and Leslie comes out of the bathroom smiling, meaning she took her bathroom test, her pregnancy test. So I think we know what's going down in baby town. All right, Leslie wants to call Ben, but Ben is so drunk and he can't talk to Leslie because he's drunk and he drops his phone in the mud. It's a whole mess, which sucks, because I know that Leslie wants to talk to him about this and I know Ben would want to talk to her, but.

So Ben is like, Leslie sounded weird. I want to walk home. You know, I just want to leave. So this must not be far if it's in walking distance. I mean, I would go so far as to say that they could walk maybe three miles tops. Ron could probably walk a long time. He's an outdoorsy, could be outside all the time. So I don't know. Yeah, I'm thinking that this is not very far. OK.

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So let's see. yeah, I love this Adam Scott moment of climbing over the fence. my gosh, that is such a good Adam Scott moment. It's one of the top where he's like, watch out for that fence. He just struggles over that fence. So Tom is nervous because Xander is talking to this French man, this French restaurateur.

I believe this was also cut where Donna says she picked up French Canadian when she was dating a Montreal expo. I don't remember her saying that's where she caught French. I just remember, maybe it wasn't cut, I don't know, but I feel like I remember the original air, her going up to this guy and speaking French and us all being like, my God, what a great character thing that she speaks French. That's crazy, you know what mean? Like there's no explanation. Terrence Montreux, by the way, is his name, which again, so good. That name is brilliant.

but he's the restaurateur that owns 12 restaurants. And he acts like he doesn't know the word thing. I love that. How you say thing? And Tom's all, don't act like you don't know the word thing. Terrence Montrose played by Michael Rothhardt, and he's a prominent theater director as well as an actor. He's been in a bunch of movies and TV shows. He was also in Modern Family. If you watch Modern Family, he's the one that Gloria gets mad at because the dog keeps barking, and we're pretty sure that she stole the dog.

after this encounter. And I just think his character is really great here. I think he, I mean, it seems very similar to where they're, they have a status. His character is always like a hierarchy of like, he's up here, you're down here kind of vibe, I feel, which is really funny. Side note, I think in the Modern Family episode,

This is the one where he's like, well, you have a bird or something to Gloria. And it's really just Gloria shouting Jay's name really loudly. And it sounds like an animal to this guy, which I thought that was really funny. I didn't see any contact information for him. So I'm really sad about that. But well done, sir. Well done. So Craig recommends a red for steak. And this dude says, perhaps a Riesling. And yeah, I feel like he should know that a Riesling would not be good with steak if you're one of the judges, you weirdo. What are you doing?

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And Craig's like, not if you're eating steak, you loon. That was funny. Because like I said, on this point, I do agree with Craig. This actor's name who plays the judge is played by Rod McCary. And his character name is Judge Ryan Letgo, which I think is funny. Or Rain Letgo. Maybe it's Rain Letgo, let go of the rains.

He's known for the Flintstones in 1994, Night Demons 2, and he's been in a lot of other movies and TV shows as well. I think he reminds me of Mr. Feeny from Boy Meets World. I just feel like his hair and his face kind of like seem similar, like they could be brothers. You know what I mean? Oh my gosh, yeah. This is where we get to chip and cap like one of the biggest Parks moments in Parks history lore. I'll bring the girls, you bring the beer, and the troops will bring the freedom.

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That is so classic. I don't know who wrote this. Honestly, I could see Bo Burnham contributing to this in a way. I don't know how they came up with that character. I mean, I know how they came up with that character, but I don't know the specifics of who wrote that portion of it. So funny. So we now see that Chip is actually a huge asshole because he yells at his team to get lunch stacks, which I think is funny because they probably can't say Lunchable because of some sort of...

naming rights, if you will, or copyright or whatever. But he's like, she's on top or no one gets paid and everyone is scrambling. And you're like, my god, this guy's kind of a dick. And Chip says, the only reason he's not doing the Unity concert is because he has a previous engagement. So he throws, then he throws this plate at his dad, who's the manager who made the lunch stack for him. And I'm like, my god, I don't want you to play at my concert anymore. Gross.

But I do love, he's just so funny. He's like, anticipate my needs. Like your job is not that hard. Chip's dad, Skip, which I think is really funny. So we've got Chip the son and Skip the dad. Chip and Skip. Skip is played by Scott Michael Morgan and he was so good. my gosh, great work. He's been in a ton of things. Rutherford Falls, which has Andy from The Office, Ed Helms.

American crime story, why women kill, so many things. And it looks like he has some upcoming projects as well, so we'll have to keep up to date with that. Back at the sommelier testing, the next Indiana master sommelier is in fact Xander, which we kind of saw coming sadly. Donna though, spills wine on this restaurateur fella to buy Tom some time to talk to Xander.

And this wine pour is not subtle whatsoever. I love that she just goes up and pours the wine on him. Like it's not even, she doesn't even try to bump into him or anything. She just kind of goes up and pours the wine on him. Like oops. I actually really do quote this line that Tom has when he says, you know, Tom's Spice Show is gonna be the best, quite possibly trillist, a new restaurant in town.

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I love the word Trill. I think it's really weird and unique and I would like to incorporate it into more of my vocabulary sentences. But sadly turns out Xander has already accepted this offer for the other guy and it's literally not possible to pay him what he's getting paid. Side note, sommeliers do get paid a lot. you know, the test is insane because you also have to

do different regions, you have to do all of these different things in order to become a sommelier. I don't believe that it's actually a test like this. I do think that this is a competition to get placement so that you can be a little bit more competitive in your job search. But you do have to take the test. It's not just going around to these judges and being like, this goes with this, this goes with this. I have a friend of mine who was studying the sommelier test. And actually, Jay Jackson, who plays PURD,

at the time we interviewed him ages ago, years ago now, he was studying for the sommelier test and he had like a map that he showed us where it was like you have to study the different regions, the different soils that vineyards and grapes can be in and you know how the different vines work and all that kind of stuff which is wild to think about because you know when most people when they drink wine don't really think about that.

So yeah, it's a huge deal and one of the reasons why they get paid so much is because they're at these fancy ass restaurants that are very expensive. So, and I guess because the training is insane. So anyway, Ron and Ben are on their way home walking and we get to see Eagleton Ron again. He's back. Perfect timing for him to come back. my God. I love this moment too of like, are you a ghost? And he's like, am I? Ron, done. my God.

I love Sam Elliott. Classic. my god, then we get to Chip McCapp saying that his previous engagement is just a haircut. Come on, Chip. You can reschedule that, you fancy weirdo. my god. So Leslie makes this impassioned appeal, very like intense, like, my gosh, you have to be here. We love you. You know, the region needs you, not just Pawnee. And Chip insults them and says, Dirty Hicks. And he's like laughing about it. He's like,

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not even taking this seriously at all. And he shoots a paintball gun at his dad. He's like, if I want to do that, I'm going to do that. No. my God, Chip McCapp. But the writing here is so good. This is one of those moments when I'm like, my God, the writing of how awful this person is, is so good. Like to just have a paintball gun shot at you. I can't imagine.

That's why I wanted to talk to the actor who plays Skip because I'm like, my God, can you imagine that being your day at work, like being shot by a paintball gun? And I'm sure it's not as painful. At least I hope it would not be. I hope that has safety things going on because that is like really painful from people that tell me about paintballing that if you're shot at close proximity, it's not soft. Like it's hard and it's painful. So I'm sure they did something to make it less painful, but my God, it was so good.

So now we've kind of given up here. We're realizing that he's a dick. So Andy and Leslie leave. They go to a diner. She thinks Andy understands what's going on because he makes the movement about what we think is like belly, like a belly movement when a woman is pregnant. But he totally doesn't know what's going on. And she thinks that he thinks that she's going to adopt a dog.

I agree with him though that she was great and she did say everything she needed to say and she and I think not only you know was she good with the impassioned speech and stuff but like when someone's being a dick to you and insulting your town and your people and you essentially like you do stand up to them I think that was fine for her to do that I love that he says I thought you were gonna punch that kid's lights out it's such a cute moment though with Andy like it is a deep moment even though he totally doesn't know what's going on but he

does say exactly what she needed to hear right now. Like you and Ben can handle anything. And it really helps Leslie get through this. So Leslie suggests talking to Scott Tanner, who is the lead singer of Lando because he lives in Pawnee and they could beg him to play. So we could try that. So funny that Andy thinks Scott Tanner is like the gateway to Bob Dylan. my God. And I love that he still thinks she's getting a dog. Like just forgot that huge life moment that we just had. And then he goes back to thinking she's getting a dog. my God.

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So back with Ron, and then the other Ron, and Ben, Ben wants to vent to the new Ron. he says, new Ron says the ancient Wama Poke people believed that the blueberry wine was called Matapiqua, and it has mystical powers. I looked it up and Matapiqua is not real. I Googled it, it's so funny, I Googled it, and the only articles come up are about Parks and Rec. So that is not real, but.

You know, that's not to say Native Americans didn't have things like this, know, believing that food or, you know, certain things have spiritual powers and because that is real, but matapigua is not. I love that line though, like you're hanging on to that anger for dear life. Let's role play. So we learn now that Craig actually wants the job at Tom's Bistro. He's been trying to prove it the whole day. And it would just be part time and Tom is like.

You'd have to prove that you can bring it down a notch because you're literally insane, essentially. And Andy thinks that the broken Scantron machine is the way to reunite Lanto. my god. He's like, I'm going to do this the way I've got a perfect score on the SAT test. Broken Scantron machine. dear, Leslie gets sick again in this guy's front yard. That's no good.

I also love when they have when they are trying to show him the little poster thing. It keeps folding up and he's like, could you just could you just hold that down here? And it totally ruins the epic moment that he was about to have. Scott Tanner is, of course, played by Jeff Tweedy of the amazing band Wilco. So cool that they have him. They're actually playing in Indiana in April, which is a really fun and ironic thing. Not really ironic, because if you're a band, you're going to be on tour. But I'm just saying it's a nice, ironic thing for me.

According to an article I found, which I'll post in the show notes, the Parks people just kind of cold called him. Like they discovered parallels between the character they were casting and him. And I just wanted to read some of this article. So this is from, this is Jeff Tweedy saying these words, okay? He said, I got word through my management that I was being asked if I wanted to be on Parks and Recreation and play sort of a semi-autobiographical character.

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When I discussed this with the writers, they said they kept talking about Scott Tanner in the writers room like a Jeff Tweedy type character or a Midwestern washed up rock star. And somebody said, well, why don't we just go ahead and ask Jeff? At the time, I was immediately going to say no because my wife was just beginning the process of getting diagnosed with cancer and starting her treatment. I didn't want to leave at that particular moment, but she insisted. She was adamant that I couldn't say no because she loved the show so much and wanted me to be a part of it.

That was the context for me. was hesitant to be gone at all at the moment, but she pushed me to accept. my God, well done, Scott Tanner's wife. my gosh, you're amazing. I'm so glad you made him do it. Also, the song he sings as Land Ho becomes a Wilco song, which is so cool. I did not realize that. Side note, in the article, it also said that he got to name the band, like he came up with the band Land Ho and added the exclamation point at the end.

That was his idea. Isn't that so cool? my god. I love this. It was a vulture.com article, so I will definitely post that. There is more in the article, so please take the time to read that if you like to. But those are the pertinent, that's the pertinent information that I found, which is so cool. So this, at this point, you think he's gonna say something meaningful and deep when he has this line, I'm gonna tell you what I tell everyone who wants us to reunite. No. This is the.

the flyer moment that is rolled up and won't come out. my gosh, so funny. And yeah, Scott Tanner's like, look, this looks awesome. I'm really happy for you that you're doing this, but the band doesn't play anymore. Leslie's throwing up, of course, and feeling sick, and he's still drunk from last night. I've been there. Jeff Tweedy did a great job at being just very relatable, and he did, I feel like, I hate to say this, I don't know if this is rude, but a lot of sports,

people are on commercials now, sports people, athletes, sorry, football players that I've seen in particular are on all these commercials now. like, when they say their lines, it's clear that they memorize their lines and they're not putting any of like themselves into it. It doesn't feel authentic or real or like anything. It's just you like they're reciting lines. This is what I was told to say.

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And it's still funny and most of the time it's a comedic commercial anyway, so like it doesn't really matter if you can act, whatever. But I just feel like Jeff Tweedy does a really good job of being an actor. You know what I mean? And maybe he is just being himself. Maybe he's not really acting at all. He's just kind of saying the lines as himself. But even that is better than like just reciting robotically kind of what you were told to say. So I think he did a really good job. So the song that Andy sings that says is

is a Land Ho song apparently. The catapult me into the sun and burn baby burn. I don't believe that was a real song at first. I don't think that I think that was just written for this episode of the show because I looked it up and there's a reddit thread that someone wrote that said someone wrote a full song based on this. There is a song out there. It's by a band called Almost All Purpose. It's on the streaming music services so I really don't know. I think they

made it after the fact though. So who's to say? Because Parks and Rec has such talent that they absolutely could have just, Mark Rivers is amazing. I don't know if it was him or whatever. He's the one that writes all the Mouse Rat songs. But like the writers crew in general is so talented that they could have absolutely written that line for this episode and just kind of left it, which is what I'm leading toward thinking. And then someone was just inspired. So if anyone knows or if you're that band, almost all purpose, let me know how that.

came to be. So Scott Tanner's kid comes in and recognizes Andy from, you know, being Johnny Karate at birthday parties. I believe this kid in the show is called, his actor name is played by Tyler Nunes. His character name was Kevin. Great job, kid. I love that he's dancing around. He's like really into playing the chop chop, chop chop, kick kick, chop chop chop. It's called Karate Chop Master. my God, harmonies?

I love when Scott Tanner does the harmonies for that. I love when Andy is so oblivious of like, you know, I really admire you, but you're doing the song wrong. Like he has no, you know, what's the word filter, I guess, of like, nope, nope, that's not right. You did it wrong. So now Craig is being tested as a sommelier to see if he could really take the job at Tom's Bistro and they all give him crazy orders.

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my gosh, people actually do this. So as a side job, I work at a winery on the weekends every now and again, and they always ask for ice cubes. I don't know if they know it dilutes the wine. I think they just think it makes it cold. I don't think they understand. And sometimes I tell them, like not often, but sometimes I'm like trying to explain it a little bit more, but no, they want to do it. They just want it. And I remember some, like I think when I was first started drinking beer, I did put ice in my beer and then I-

realized or heard somewhere that that's not, you know, you're not getting the beer. You're just getting like a watered down version. So I stopped doing that. But these wine people do not do that. And there are definitely people who order, you know, red wine with fish and white wine mistake and all the things that don't really go together. But you got to be tested for that stuff because it does happen. This is not just, you know, a ruse.

my gosh, this was a great deleted line. I really don't think this was in the original air. We learned the conference room is not soundproof because Craig goes in there to like scream about their orders and Donna says she takes private calls in there and she thought that they were soundproofed, but it's not and April knows all about the car dealership in Tampa, whatever that means. Wow, that's a great, great detail.

So Craig holds it together in front of the customers, which is really what you need, honestly. If he can have a moment to just go in the back and scream, they'll have to soundproof the wine cellar, as Tom says, but I think it could work. So now Ben is doing a spiritual chant situation with both Rons, and Pawnee Ron is so over it. I love that the baby snow owl is Ben's spirit animal. my gosh, and looks like old Ron has, or sorry, new Ron has a hawk that comes to him, and that's his spirit animal.

I don't think I know what my spirit animal is. I've always thought it was a cat, but because I just feel like I really resonate with a cat. But I don't know. I really need to think about that a little bit more. I'm just not sure. I want to know what it is. OK, so let's see. Eagleton Ron suggests burning the check that he was given for his lake house. And Pawnee Ron is like, don't do that. That is money, OK?

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But either way, doesn't really help. think even if he had the money, it wouldn't have helped him. You know what mean? It's not about the money, as we learn a little bit later. So Scott Tanner agrees to play the Unity concert, and they've sold 500 tickets. my god, that is so much. 500 tickets is insane, dude. Like, that is a true festival, okay? I feel like any other event that Pawnee would have had, that is, like, undoable. But this is amazing that they got this many people. Scott Tanner has made it happen for them.

What a great pivot that that could happen in one episode. The idea that this could happen so fast is such a testament to how far we've come in the season, I think, both in real life and in the show, because I feel like we would have taken a whole maybe five-episode arc to figure out what are we going to do with this, or maybe even two episodes, I don't know, but definitely not one, to figure out how we're going to move forward from this. So I think this is a really cool, like, OK, we're getting shit done. You know what mean?

the this is running like a well-oiled machine. We now have Andy and we're just working on this level that we did not have before. So lovely. Okay, so Eagleton Ron has a little tiny smart car. I love it. They're all kind of piled in there going home. Ben still doesn't feel better, but I do. I mean, I think it helped in its own way to like talk about it and invent about it. That's very important.

and also Ben, mean, he's not going to stop being angry in a day. Like this is a big life situation. It's a big family situation. It takes some time to like diffuse and process, like give yourself a break a little bit about this. also being drunk doesn't help at all to process and really feel your feelings because you don't know what's what, when you're drunk. But you know, I wanted him to just kind of understand, okay, you're not going to feel better right now, buddy. It's okay.

But anyway, Pani Ron kind of accidentally helps by just being himself. Who knows if that was on purpose or not to tell Ben. I think it wasn't. I think he just says his wise things that he always does. But he says, seeing the kids puts things in perspective. you know, after a long day, after a long day, my gosh, can't speak today. After a long day, it's always nice to go home to the wife and kids, see my kids, and get a new lease on life, essentially. And that really gets Ben thinking.

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which is great writing, obviously, of Ben discovering the reason that he's so upset about the Lake Hood House, childhood house being sold is because he always pictured bringing his kids to that Lake House and sharing his childhood memories with them, but also them creating their own childhood memories. And it's just like this whole that's the deeper portion that we weren't talking about before that Ben hadn't really come to that conclusion yet of like what this is why I'm so upset because I wanted, you know, the cycle to continue, essentially.

And it's so wonderful because he says that I want to start a, to Leslie, says, I want to start a family with you. I want to start our family and I want to do it now. Great work writing crew. Great work with this line. Well, buddy, I got some great news for you or good news for you. I think is the exact line. And then the episode ends and it's perfect.

Holly Constant (01:24:03.063)
So can't wait to see where we're gonna come next with that. But yeah, we've been waiting to see, I think, what was going on. To be honest with you, I didn't really see Leslie getting pregnant. I don't know. It just wasn't really a thought in my mind. She hasn't really talked about family as much, I don't think. I think, sure, that's next logical step, but I didn't really see it coming, I don't feel. I'd love to know if anyone else did, but I didn't. So.

Anyways, my gosh, thank you so much to everyone that sent in voice memos, Steve, Tom, Rebecca Klingler. Thank you so much. I just loved it so much and I always love hearing from you guys. Don't forget to rate, review, subscribe, do all the things. Check us out on all the social medias and just try your best to do your best. And hope that you all have a lovely day, week, and month ahead. And however you're celebrating the winter time. And I hope we don't get any more snow.

Okay, I'll talk to you guys soon. Please let me know if you have any other questions and I can't wait to see you on the next one when we talk about babies. Ooh, babies plural, maybe? Question mark? Okay, bye.